@cuppykeks thanks a lot for playing the map. always great to hear other people's feedback on my stuff. it is very hard to judge your own telegraphing as the mapper so it's great to hear what you thought of stuff like the rocket launcher spawn. and yeah those chaingunners were originally shotgunners and the way I tested was hiding in the hell knight spawn area. also, thanks for the tips on symmetry ill definitely take those into consideration. again thanks for taking the time to play 🙂