What's your least favorite weapon? (Besides the melee and pistol)
I am excluding pistol, fist and chainsaw because they're obvious choices.
For me it's the plasma gun: It has an irritating sound, it obstructs your view when you fire it, making killing with it unsatisfying, it's a very underwhelming new weapon to get in The Shores of Hell compared to the rocket launcher, the BFG and SSG.
If I could replace the plasma gun, I'd replace it with a rocket launcher variant that uses 5 rockets per shot to deploy a mega rocket that makes a trail of explosions as it flies by.
Dusk-Iv last edited by
Your replacement sounds like it could be a Rise of the Triad weapon.
I personally don't really enjoy using the BFG much because it can easily become very inconsistent, but I wouldn't replace it, the mechanics it creates are way too interesting to get rid of it even if it gets a little painful.
kvsari last edited by kvsari
I have to agree with the plasma rifle being bad, sadly. But not for the same reasons;
For me the plasma rifle is an emergency push through weapon for low and mid tier monsters. I do agree that the rocket launcher is superior in the sense that it requires tactical awareness. You can't use the RL as a push through weapon for example. And as a push through, the BFG is far superior.
But this "emergency push through" use of the plasma rifle highlights its major problems. It's slow. The projectiles take time to reach their target which at long ranges means you're likely to miss. Even at medium range with revenants you can miss. The projectiles are also wide which can get them caught around corners and sometimes I wonder if I'm actually hitting the target or just the ledge/corner next to the target. These two issues I think diminish the value of the plasma rifle.
The chaingun, if only it had a higher fire rate (I mean six barrels! It should go brrr) it would make not only a good push through but medium range beamer and long range sniper.
To fix the plasma... I dunno. Perhaps change the projectile to a tracer and up the damage? Then the plasma rifle becomes a SSG type weapon where its single shot, packs a real punch, shoots through targets (because tracer) and long range (because tracer). Thus the SSG is the short range, corner cover, room clearer weapon and the plasma rifle becomes the long range caco/pain elemental killer. Because those two monsters have a nasty habit of being pushed way way away and then all your rockets miss. In this role I think the plasma would become very valuable.
MattFright last edited by
I honestly would say the plasma rifle as well. I feel like Antaresian Reliquary makes it absolutely wonderful to use: punchier sound, more powerful looking projectile, slower but more powerful and plasma efficient, even gibs zombiemen and shotgunners sometimes. I kinda wish more wads did away with a plasma modification along those lines.
@MattFright Fixes my issues with the plasma gun as well with its less obnoxious sound and less obstructive projectiles, but it's still just a weapon that shoots a basic projectile, which is a pretty bland unlock after the more interesting rocket launcher and even the very similar chaingun (or dual Uzi's in this wad's case).
segfault last edited by
I'm actually not a fan of the chaingun really. It feels weak compared to the SSG, rockets, and plasma. A faster firing chaingun would be really nice. Plasma could probably benefit from a small blast radius and perhaps a faster projectile?
@segfault I've had this balance idea between the pistol and the chaingun :
Make the pistol shoot a bit slower than the default chaingun.
Make the chaingun shoot a bit faster than the default chaingun and give it a cooldown when it stops firing.
segfault last edited by
@joe-ilya I've actually sort of done this in my upcoming wad Antiquity. The pistol, pump-action shotgun, and machine gun (chaingun replacement) all fire faster. The pistol's much faster, pump action slightly so.
Gibbon last edited by
Chaingun for me. The pistol sound is just so monotonous and after a while really starts to grate on me.
@Gibbon The bullet sounds are much better in its original higher quality.